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Post by cnot on Jul 29, 2007 11:03:57 GMT -5
Anyone do anything outside the chum bag method that they feel works better?
I've combined the bag with sandballs. I know some guys that have replaced the bag with an I.V. set ut. (an IV bag like hospitals use filled with fish oil that drips over the side.)
Seen a guy that works the mangroves in the Keys with a combination of cunks and live bait that he slings around the edges. (Has an interesting "ladle" for doing this)
What techniques do you use for getting the cum to bottom fish? Getting the chum to the other than sandballs can be a problem.
Let's kick this one around for awhile.
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Post by sandyharley on Jul 29, 2007 12:37:36 GMT -5
I use a sand bag for chumming in deep water while bottom fishing.I mix a good dose of chum with menhaden milk and, sand and, put it in a paper bag ,then freeze it.This will give you a time delay of the chum as the paper bag dissolves and, the chum thaws out and, spreads out.It is a easy way to draw fish with out harming the environment. I use the IV bag deal when I work king fish at anchor the bag is tethered at the bow with a slow drip and, I put out bait fish and, chunks.
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Post by cnot on Jul 29, 2007 13:37:52 GMT -5
Which do you think is better, a straight chum bag (like the old onion sack with a block of frozen chum) or the IV drip?
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Post by sandyharley on Jul 29, 2007 14:04:27 GMT -5
It depends on what I'm fishing for.If I'm chasing kings in shallow water I like the IV along with chunking .If I'm in deep water looking to tuna I like the onion bag with a block of chum.The only thing about the onion bag with a block is that it will bring in more than tuna and, you may have to move more often.
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Post by cnot on Jul 29, 2007 18:09:52 GMT -5
AHHHHH!!! Funny thing that I tarted this thread today!!!!
Buddy called to say he's able to do a moning trip tomorrow morning... Wants to try a spot and pound the bottom for flounder... Not too deep of water, probably in the under 20 foot area... Thought I'd whip up some chum for the occaision... Figured frozen sandballs would be the ticket for the yak (and the fact that I can't find my onion bags...) My normal recipe includes menhaden milk (check), bloodline and other trimmings from ealier catches (check, got some in the freezer, tuna and dolphin blood lines), sand (check, got some sweep sand from the paving stone project laying around) oat or wheat cereal to gum it together and carry the scent when it drifts(OH NO! None in the house!!! Pouring rain, thunder boomers outside at the moment, not going to walk to the store for that!!) Time to improvise!! Hmmmm... Sandy what do you think? Maybe some bread?
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Post by sandyharley on Jul 29, 2007 18:32:43 GMT -5
White bread will do the trick.The heel of the loaf would be my choice.If you have some small paper bags you are in business.
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Post by cnot on Jul 29, 2007 18:47:09 GMT -5
I think I found the ticket.. My brother left some hot dog rolls last week... thy should be just the ticket.... Paper bags... Hmmm...
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Post by sandyharley on Jul 29, 2007 19:54:28 GMT -5
The paper bag is the trick.If you toss the frozen bag with the chum over board it will take a few moments before the chum starts to work and, as the bag dissolves it will slowly bring the fish in.
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Post by cnot on Jul 29, 2007 21:13:53 GMT -5
Went it some bags and some newspaper wrapped ones and some un done ones... Little of everything. (Before anyone gets on my case, newspapers are using safe ink thesdays, and the way this is done, the paper will be disolved before the day is out.)
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Post by cnot on Jul 30, 2007 8:53:40 GMT -5
After all that work last night, I get rained out this morning... Grrr....
Anyone use live bait for chum? Do you stun it before setting it over?
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Post by sandyharley on Jul 31, 2007 19:05:16 GMT -5
When I use live bait for chum I just net them out of the well and, toss them over board.It drives dolphin and, yellow fin crazy.
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Post by cnot on Aug 1, 2007 8:19:08 GMT -5
Well, the reason I asked about the stunning live bait for chum is that fella I know in Key Largo that uses live bait and chunks o chum fish out of the mangroves. He has a kid's plastic bat, those over sized things that look like a Freddy Flintstone club, with the Head end top cut off. He dips some livies into it, rattles them around in there a bit, then uses it to sling the bait into the mangroves' edge. The process rattles the bait's brain a bit, and the confused way that they swim sraws out the fish.
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Post by sandyharley on Aug 1, 2007 15:27:56 GMT -5
That sounds like something that would work quite well.I may have to give that a try.
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Post by cnot on Aug 1, 2007 18:16:25 GMT -5
I call it the "Jai Alai" chumming method! I mean he can get some serious distance and accuracy with that thing!!! I can see wy the bait would attract attention from the predators, the confused feeling from the slinging through the air must make then look like rich drunks coming out of an all you can drink happy hour in a bad neighborhood...
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Post by sandyharley on Aug 1, 2007 19:47:29 GMT -5
I don't chum inshore but, I may have to give it a try and, let you no how it worked.I think it may work out well at night fishing around lit up docks.
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Post by cnot on Aug 1, 2007 20:29:58 GMT -5
Grits? Really? (coming from another thread we took off topic for those that don't read osme of our nonsense) I would think they would work, if they break down again....
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Post by sandyharley on Aug 1, 2007 20:43:28 GMT -5
It works ! The nice thing about the grits is that they will take on the flavor of what ever you mix into them so, it's not just a filler.
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Post by cnot on Aug 1, 2007 20:49:30 GMT -5
Cook them first or let them soak in the "juices" and suck it up? I would think the latter would work, but I have to be honest, I do't do much with grits... Just one part of the Yankee blood that won't leave me....
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Post by sandyharley on Aug 2, 2007 6:40:20 GMT -5
I cook them first but, I think a good long soak would work just as well.We are going to have to do some thing about that Yankee blod thing!
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Post by cnot on Aug 2, 2007 8:02:50 GMT -5
Well, I never ate a grit, but if the fish will eat it, I want to know about it. LOL They're made from corn right? Seems like that would be a great filler to use.
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